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bubbleguuum
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Roger W said:
Hi, I was just watching a packet capture on my BubbleUPnP Server machine (running Windows) while watching media over the internet from its HTTPS endpoint, on my phone. It all works, but I'm wondering about tightening security.
I see the control connection open on the HTTPS port and do its thing, then the media starts playing on the HTTP port with a regular unauthenticated HTTP request. I copied that URL from the capture and hit it from yet another remote PC that hadn't ever authenticated to the HTTPS channel, and the media still downloaded. This makes me think that if I'm on a public internet connection where someone else will have traffic logs, they can at any later time watch my media without authenticating, (and with more effect, record my traffic and watch it that way). Reading this thread, it looks like this might be for battery reasons.
A few alternatives come to mind:
- Allow optional HTTPS mode for media too, despite the battery hit
- Have the HTTPS control connection set up a one-time (or short-term) random password needed to authenticate the HTTP connection in plaintext which at least can't be reused after the fact
- Similar, but use a time-limited random URL that's goes away after a little while or one use.thanks!
You pretty much states what's in the FAQ (admitedly which omits that stream URLs can be sniffed by someone on the target network):
How is security handled ?
You can connect to BubbleUPnP Server using either HTTP or HTTPS.
HTTP/HTTPS requests from outside the LAN (Internet) are authenticated using Digest Authentication.Note that for technical reasons, media stream requests are neither authenticated nor use HTTPS.
That's why even if you connect through HTTPS, the HTTP port must still be available.However, the HTTP stream URLs are constructed in a way that they cannot be "guessed" or "forged". They can only be obtained by browsing the server, whose access is always authenticated.
Using https for streams would be possible but with real drawbacks and complications. Android BubbleUPnP (and other clients such as foo_upnp and BubbleUPnP Tether client) would have to expose an unauthenticated LAN http stream to playing renderers (which generally do not support https and even if they do have no way to authenticate themselves) and proxy it to the real https authenticated URL. No plan for this currently.
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chappie1970
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bubbleguuum said:
After some debugging it turns out to be a MediaMonkey bug: when asked to return all of its root items it returns none. It works in Android BubbleUPnP and foobar2000 browsing the LAN MediaMonkey server because browsing is incremental (it ask n items repeatedly). It could be workarounded in foo_upnp or BubbleUPnP Server, but it would better be fixed in MediaMonkey. I'll report this bug to them.
OK, many thanks for the quick reply.
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Swehawk
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xbmc renderer starts playing by itself
Hi!
I'm having a strange issue with xbmc renderer (open home) starting to play by itself from a stored playlist (bubble server). This happens when I have watched a movie in xbmc and return to the main menu, despite my android tablet being turned off. The onlu cp I have active is Bubbleupnp on the tablet. It's not activated in xbmc. When I press Stop in xbmc it just jumps to the next playlist item. I have to fire up Bubbleupnp and stop playing from there.
Now this could just as well be an xbmc upnp issue, but I thought I would mention it here too, should anyone else have the same problem!
Thanx for a great app
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soulfreem
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option upnp remote renderer auto-reconnect
Could you please add the option in audio cast settings so the app will remember and reconnect automatically to the last connected remote upnp renderer when you open the app or when the wifi signal is lost or when the remote upnp renderer is availiable again after lost connection at the local network.Its annoying everytime to enable the audiocast streaming when the wifi signal is weak or when the connection is lost to the remote renderer. in my car i have a wifi upnp audio dac renderer and it reboots for 2 seconds everytime i start the engine so i have to enable manually again the audio cast streaming inside the app everytime i start the car and its too annoying.Could you please fix this?or add this option?
Looking forward to your reply
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affliction_emrah
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Hi,it's a great app and using it for a long time. I was using Audio Cast too. Last night tried it again, everything looks alright, I have visual on my tv while streaming Deezer but no sound.
Could you help?
Thanks in advance
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yugoport
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Hi Bubble, first of all thanks for this great app, I already bought the paid licence ( hugo.mfc gmail.com ), I am having a small issue that I cant understand, i dowloaded a avi video from my phone, and was attempting to play it in PS3, the video plays but only for 6 seconds, after this stops and I can not resume it anymore, some other videos are playing well, any tip to fix ths?
Thanks in advance
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bubbleguuum
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yugoport said:
Hi Bubble, first of all thanks for this great app, I already bought the paid licence ( hugo.mfc gmail.com ), I am having a small issue that I cant understand, i dowloaded a avi video from my phone, and was attempting to play it in PS3, the video plays but only for 6 seconds, after this stops and I can not resume it anymore, some other videos are playing well, any tip to fix ths?
There's not much that can be done if the PS3 has an issue with that video. I'm not even sure the PS3 can play AVI natively.
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bubbleguuum
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soulfreem said:
Could you please add the option in audio cast settings so the app will remember and reconnect automatically to the last connected remote upnp renderer when you open the app or when the wifi signal is lost or when the remote upnp renderer is availiable again after lost connection at the local network.Its annoying everytime to enable the audiocast streaming when the wifi signal is weak or when the connection is lost to the remote renderer. in my car i have a wifi upnp audio dac renderer and it reboots for 2 seconds everytime i start the engine so i have to enable manually again the audio cast streaming inside the app everytime i start the car and its too annoying.Could you please fix this?or add this option?
The app cannot guess what to do for every possible networking failure scenario. Even if it did guess, it would guess wrong for at least someone.
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bubbleguuum
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Swehawk said:
Hi!
I'm having a strange issue with xbmc renderer (open home) starting to play by itself from a stored playlist (bubble server). This happens when I have watched a movie in xbmc and return to the main menu, despite my android tablet being turned off. The onlu cp I have active is Bubbleupnp on the tablet. It's not activated in xbmc. When I press Stop in xbmc it just jumps to the next playlist item. I have to fire up Bubbleupnp and stop playing from there.Now this could just as well be an xbmc upnp issue, but I thought I would mention it here too, should anyone else have the same problem!
Thanx for a great app
This happens because BubbleUPnP Server receive a "playback stopped" event from XBMC and proceed to track advance for the OpenHome renderer.
The only way to avoid it currently is to clear the OpenHome playlist. BubbleUPnP Server could be a bit more clever in this regard although it is less easy than it seems to detect.
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bubbleguuum
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affliction_emrah said:
Hi,it's a great app and using it for a long time. I was using Audio Cast too. Last night tried it again, everything looks alright, I have visual on my tv while streaming Deezer but no sound.
I just tested Deezer with one of my renderer and it still works.
Please send me a log file playing Deezer to your TV (see first post of this topic for instructions)
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shravanchoudhary9
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need help, I bought this on play.
Hi guys
I bought this on play, only issue i have is its not showing subtitles. When i play movie in a folder which already has .srt file with same name, still its not playing. And during video play when i check show meta data it says subtitles yes.
Then why is thia issue. I am using ezcast dongal. Ezcast application is playing movies well but it takes too many setups each time i start it. So plz help ...
eyeconic
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I would buy a second license
Plex is a top seller in the Kindle store. Plex is inferior to BubbleUPnP in many respects. Just some food for thought.
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gaetanolip
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An idea:
It would be great if you add the function of extracting embedded videos in Internet sites, like just web video caster does. Using web video caster and then sharing to bubbleipnp i am able to push most videos from internet to my tv.
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violaman
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HTTP 404 Error
Hello Everybody;
Trying to get into the BubbleUPnP Server on my QNAP HS 210, Netgear 6100. Network Utility(OSX Maverick) says both 58050 and 58051 are open. What should I do?
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soulfreem
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bubbleguuum said:
The app cannot guess what to do for every possible networking failure scenario. Even if it did guess, it would guess wrong for at least someone.
So at least is it possible when i start the app to connect automatically to the last remote renderer so i wont have to enable it everytime i loose connection to the dac?
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bubbleguuum
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shravanchoudhary9 said:
Hi guys
I bought this on play, only issue i have is its not showing subtitles. When i play movie in a folder which already has .srt file with same name, still its not playing. And during video play when i check show meta data it says subtitles yes.
Then why is thia issue. I am using ezcast dongal. Ezcast application is playing movies well but it takes too many setups each time i start it. So plz help ...
Subtitles is not supported to EZCast. At this time, it is unknown how EZcast supports subtitles with its own app and whether it uses UPnP to do so.
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bubbleguuum
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gaetanolip said:
An idea:
It would be great if you add the function of extracting embedded videos in Internet sites, like just web video caster does. Using web video caster and then sharing to bubbleipnp i am able to push most videos from internet to my tv.Sent from my LG-D802 using Forum Fiend v1.2.14.
You can send many web pages with media content to BubbleUPnP already. Most web pages that are managed by youtube-dl actually. Partial list
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Swehawk
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bubbleguuum said:
This happens because BubbleUPnP Server receive a "playback stopped" event from XBMC and proceed to track advance for the OpenHome renderer.
The only way to avoid it currently is to clear the OpenHome playlist. BubbleUPnP Server could be a bit more clever in this regard although it is less easy than it seems to detect.
Ok, I saw that now in upnp Inspector and your'e right about clearing the playlist.
Do you think xbmc is correct to do this? I mean, I played a movie through smb, not upnp, so why does xbmc even send upnp events related to actions on smb? As I mentioned I didn't activate the control point in xbmc, only the renderer.
Should I report this as an xbmc bug, do you think?
Xmas greeting to bubblegum and to you all forum members!
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affliction_emrah
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bubbleguuum said:
I just tested Deezer with one of my renderer and it still works.
Please send me a log file playing Deezer to your TV (see first post of this topic for instructions)
Can't attach the file. Gonna send PM
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bubbleguuum
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affliction_emrah said:
Can't attach the file. Gonna send PM
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What yout sent in PM is not a BubbleUPnP log.
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